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Milo Yiannopoulos gets banned from attending furry convention

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/milo-adopts-fursona-but-furries-say-no-thanks/ He was also planning on hosting a propaganda pannel along with a neo-nazi furry group but he got banned before he could even do it. He's now claiming the termination of his ticket was "a breach of contract" and he's threatening to attend anyway. RockfordRoe (talk) 22:18, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm told by fellow furs that the convention plans on enforcing his ban in a manner that is a bit more corporal. If he tries to attend, the security's gonna kick his ass. Tyrian (talk) 13:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

I just attended this past weekend, he and his usual gang of idiots weren't there, fortunately. It would be so hilarious if he tried to go to AnthroCon or even Biggest Little FurCon. RockfordRoe (talk) 18:10, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

how do you know he wasn't? he may have put in a lot effort for fursona costume. i'm assuming its some kind of weasel. AMassiveGay (talk) 18:43, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Because these things usually have pretty good security, and Milo would've followed through with his plan, which would make him stand out. If he did attend, he got kicked out before Rockford could see him. Tyrian (talk) 19:00, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Dinesh D'Souza shares "#burnthejews" hashtag.

http://www.newsweek.com/filmmaker-pardoned-trump-shares-tweets-hashtag-burnthejews-and-1003260

This link should be included in his RW page in some way. ^{— Unsigned, by: Az curmudgeon / talk / contribs}

Seems fair to me, 5 dancing Israeli mossad agents on fbi file celebrating the greatest American tragedy while it was happening, also went on a talk show and specified they were there to document an event they supposedly had no prior knowledge of. Can someone debate this point or just instaban me cause you dont like what I have to say ^{— Unsigned, by: 205.185.117.190 / talk / contribs}

"America's First Non-Binary Person" decides he's just had too much porn

Found this from the Android SmartNews app, which I'm beginning to decide is seriously mis-named. He used to be a trans woman, then decided he was "America's first non-binary", now says "it's all a sham" and explicitly calls out Autogynephilia as the "cause". And the story is featured on the "news" page of The Heritage Foundation. Pere Ubu (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I feel like non-binary people will be quite surprised to find that the concept only dates to 2016, given that it had already surpassed the nearly synonymous(and much older) term "genderqueer" in 2014. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 20:16, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

"yang gang"

The inevitable consequence of this is we're gonna find out, that, no memes were not even slightly responsible for the election of donald trump, and it was in fact: constant unearned media coverage, american voters being complete dumbasses who can write their own ideals onto almost any politician, the fact that republican base vote consistently with no concern for how complete shit their candidates are, and that the democrats managed to pick the single most likely to lose candidate from their field of primary choices in 2016. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 21:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

effective altruism

Remember when this charity was actually built on minimizing harm to human beings? There just needs to be a law that whenever you deem spreading your ideology is the ultimate good in the world, you get shot and replaced with better people. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 15:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

the list of other worthy recipients is also fucking amazing, let's not minimise the clogginess here - David Gerard (talk) 11:39, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

70k for a webpage where people vote on what they think is going to happen. Amazing. And for a moment, I had a hope that the 150k they gave to "CFAR" was the "center for aids research". 18k for a goddamn 2 day workshop on the dangers of AI? The mind boggles at the harm that could be reduced with this money. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 14:57, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

As a member of the EA movement, I was very surprised by this donation recommendation. My hunch is that they received too few "valid" applications for funding, given the unexpectedly large donation to the fund that they received, and ended up recommending funding them all, which suggests that (a) they are failing to sufficiently publicise this fund, and (b) if you think you could come up with a better use for that money that's EA-relevant and related to the "long-term future" of humanity, you actually should submit an application for funding (next time), because you might actually get funded. I'm totally serious about this, by the way.--Greenrd (talk) 07:51, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

just picturing them coughing up their skulls in horror at having to consider an application from RationalWiki, an educational 501(c)3 - David Gerard (talk) 13:49, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

We should let China spy on us? Wait, what!?

Here's a bizarre article from the Washington post, We Should Let China Spy On Us. --2001:8003:4163:AD00:E133:E9DE:EE3:ACB0 (talk) 16:39, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

I thought it was bizarre from the headline - but then I read it and thought it made some good points actually.--Greenrd (talk) 12:15, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

No we should not, there is no price or freedom, fuck off. ^{— Unsigned, by: 205.185.117.190 / talk / contribs}

For fuck's sake, please, this is not difficult! Sign your posts with (~~~~) or (if that's too fucking hard) by clicking on the fucking sign BUTTON: on the toolbar above the edit panel. (You can indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line.) This keeps the place tidy and stops you looking like a complete arsing tool so please, just fucking do it already. ^{— Unsigned, by: CosmikDebris / talk / contribs}

Seeing as the WIGO page is locked...

... can somebody add this?

"Fireman prophet" Mark Taylor blames Dems for Missouri tornadoes as revenge for anti-abortion bills. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 18:36, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Sho' nuff. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:37, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Metric System

In a scene straight out of Bizarro World, Tucker Carlson complains that the world has fallen under "the yoke of tyranny" of the... metric system.

If somebody who can edit the WIGO page wants to post this, go ahead. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 18:22, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Aborted baby blood libel

What the fuck is this shit? [1] LMFAO. — Oxyaena ^Harass 23:36, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Shakespeare

I actually read that article in question before it was posted here. In a nutshell, it's this: JAQing off. — Oxyaena ^Harass 15:50, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Brexit = end of the Union

Why is this in Clogs? It's been a concern since before the referendum and is discussed seriously by people on all points of the political spectrum. Or is it an excuse to dig at the author and her politics? LondonGrump (talk) 07:02, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

ive moved it to blogs. the UK is finished. AMassiveGay (talk) 09:47, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

It definitely seems to be a dig at Dawn Foster, but the idea that Brexit will break up the UK has featured widely in academic [2] and news sources across the political spectrum[3][4][5][6][7], with John Major and Gordon Brown amongst political figures to mention it. The main criticism of the Foster post would be that it's not saying anything new. --Annanoon (talk) 10:13, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

its not saying anything we have postd in blogs though. (I have though, since the referendum, constantly. its always been clear from the start - the Scottish idependence ref was so tight and so divisive.) AMassiveGay (talk) 10:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

"It's just a joke"

But I also feel the military from Area 51 has to respond to a joke post either way. It's not really them taking a joke "too seriously", it's more of a damned you do damned you don't kinda of thing when it comes to Internet shitposters. They also may end up getting serious people on board. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!^(Mod) 18:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

serious people on board, read - idiots. what would they expect to achieve? warehouses full of flying saucers? grey men wandering around? its not like they haven't given them adequate warning to hide anything from another planet if there was anything. AMassiveGay (talk) 18:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

PizzaGate being ludicrous didn't really seem to stop an idiot from waltzing in there. I wouldn't underestimate human stupidity. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!^(Mod) 18:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

On the other hand, a government seeing a not insubstantial percentage of its citizens concerned about their secrecy, even in jest, and deciding the correct response is to fucking shoot them. It's hard not to sympathize with the kooks(and irony shitposters). ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 18:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Will the government actually shoot a bunch of civilians? That's horseshit. — Oxyaena ^Harass 19:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Given that the US government dropped bombs in Philly on civies once, I dunno why you think its bullshit. Revolverman (talk) 20:13, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

No, I don't think that. More likely they'll use local police or MPs to deploy traditional crowd control countermeasures such as "Please disperse" instructions followed by symbolic arrests, tear gas, and bean bag guns. However, they did heavily imply in a public announcement that lethal force was appropriate where necessary. Which is fucked up. ikanreed ^{🐐Bleat at me} 19:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

You must watch the Margaret Thatcher video

it is the best thing ever and I too came here just to post it. It's only three minutes - David Gerard (talk) 08:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Note to the phantom sub editor who amended the Steve Baker post

I did think about citing Paradise Lost in the post but didn't because a)Satan is a fictional character so any quote attributed to him is not real b)I doubt Steve Baker knows Milton from his arsehole and c) it has greater impact and connotes that Steve Baker is an evil fuckwit. Not quite Giles Coren vs The Times subs - fuck Giles Coren anyway - but I've reverted your edit. LondonGrump (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Bill Maher

He did invite the anti-vaxxer and the Prager wanker, but he only nodded along with one of them. 147.147.183.238 (talk) 16:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Donald Trump makes anti-Semitic comment

Seriously, you linked to Electronic Intifada?

Why wouldn't you link to The Jewish Daily Forward? Or the Jewish Telegraphic Agency? Or the Jewish Daily Current?

Those are are left-wing Jewish news agencies.

Come on, guys. I realize some/many of you may be anti-Zionist. But choosing EI? You can do better than that. Aron (talk) 00:00, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with that source and can't comment one way or another, but other than some opinion injection, I don't think the article said anything that different than the Washington Post did. Having said that, IMHO it's not really Zionism. Basically Trump reflects (in his own special way) the evangelical position on Israel, meaning he can be anti semitic in his tropes *and* claim to push a "pro-Israel" narrative. The usual tribal bullshit now applies depending on where the Jewish lobbyists lie, the left-wing oriented ones (like J Street) have a free hand to call out the bullshit, the right-wing ones (being more aligned to the President) end up hemming and hawing as tribalism usually dictates. Soundwave106 (talk) 13:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

MBFC rates them as decent. ☭Comrade GC☭^{Ministry of Praise} 15:13, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

But here's the thing: the story is about Jews and Israel. Yet a pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel news source was used in the past. Surely you can see the cognitive dissonance (PS Sorry for all the minor edits. I am a total n00b at WML) Aron (talk) 09:05, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

The main Israeli newspapers (e.g. Ha'aretz) and the Washington Post (mentioned above) are all paywalled. If there is a non-paywalled link, fine, maybe it could be added, but there's little value in adding things that people can't read without at minimum pissing around with browser settings. --Annanoon (talk) 11:12, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Anything Pro-Palestinian is more trustworthy than anything coming out from Apartheid apologists imo. — Oxyaena ^Harass 14:21, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for being so transparently bigoted! Aron (talk) 15:30, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Also, all of the news sources I listed are free to read. So no paywall issue there.Aron (talk) 15:33, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

How is objecting to Apartheid bigoted? — Oxyaena ^Harass 19:50, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Misunderstanding Joe Saladino

I'm pretty sure that whoever added linked Saladino's tweet misunderstood him and took him out of context. He's actually against banning all those things. He took a libertarian stance and implied that, logically, banning porn might as well lead to banning other things, which is a (possibly non-fallacious) slippery slope. In other words, he was being sarcastic, and the tweet was only meant to be satirical.

Don't get me wrong, his profile is still chock full of batshit wingnuttery. However, this was arguably one of his more sensical tweets. My suggestion is to replace it with a link to one of his actually crazy tweets. G Man (talk) 19:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

moral panics and kids sexy talk

not a moral panic, nothing in the article suggests a moral panic, and rainbow parties were never a source of consternation in the uk. read the fucking article AMassiveGay (talk) 19:50, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Is the Numbering correct?

Currently the numbering stands at clog3267432, but is that right? I think someone must have added way too much numbers once.Tuxer (talk) 15:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Red-baiting

As if Venezuela somehow ranks alongside fucking North Korea and the Soviet Union lol. — Oxyaena ^Harass 19:49, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

You expect any sort of distinction between those countries when they can't distinguish something as obvious as socialism/communism/neoliberalism? --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!^(Mod) 21:19, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

I wonder if Venezuela toilet paper jokes will start to go away now that many Westerners can’t find it either. Chef Moosolini’s Ristorante Italiano^{Make a Reservation} 22:18, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

venezuela, a country currently the subject of embargo by the us, is by no means an egregious nor unwarranted inclusion with that list of the usual suspects of nominally socialist/authoritarian countries (for the record, its the former soviet union they mention, though why they don't just say Russia is a little odd.) by all accounts, and by any metric, Venezuela under Maduro is a fucking horror show more than worthy of its inclusion here. Maduro has ruled by decree since 2015 so certainly authoritarian enough, with huge increases in hyperinflation, poverty, unemployment, malnutrition, child poverty, shortages of basic goods, and crimes rate - 200,000 murders in the last 15 years, leading to over 3 million of its citizens fleeing the country. at the moment its probably a worse place to be than north korea.

literally everything else in that article is complete dogshit. venezeula appearing in a list of countries you don't want to be and/or on Americas shit list is the least risible thing about it. AMassiveGay (talk) 23:05, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Quantum Physics "Rogue Scholar"

I have made an account specifically to ask about this, as it is making me feel unwell. A search through the internet which started with this very site's article on Alternative Cosmologies has led me to someone called "Michael Bush" on Quora, who calls himself a "Rogue Scholar" (bad sign, I know). He keeps putting certain images (made by himself, as, he doesn't cite any other sources in anyone of his answers) in all of his answers regarding questions of Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity (he says that the first is unequivocally false and that the second is true). I will give you the question where he has detailed his beliefs: https://www.quora.com/What-paradox-would-you-give-to-an-AI-to-confuse-it (first answer). I understand that his crackpot index is off the charts, and that his mighty dismissal of every single quantum physicist on the planet is obviously wrong, but I would appreciate if anyone knowledgable in these subjects would look at his grand unifying diagrams. I would like to know what specific part of them is wrong (if they truly are). Thanks in advance!--RoAwesomeFace (talk) 19:50, 5 May 2020 (UTC)